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	<title>Comments on: Transliteracies Project Planning Session 2005</title>
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		<title>By: Jony Fames</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jony Fames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some project programming ideas that come to mind: video conferencing and other ways to foster collaborations, but also the various potential uses of and extensions to the website – which could include, in a modest but pointed way, using, “curating,? and evaluating a variety of text manipulation software, collaborative writing tools (wiki, twiki, orkut, knexus, drupal…), text visualization (text arc, txtkit, and poetry machine et al.), text to sound conversion, etc. (and then, there is metamix, or wi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some project programming ideas that come to mind: video conferencing and other ways to foster collaborations, but also the various potential uses of and extensions to the website &#8211; which could include, in a modest but pointed way, using, &#8220;curating,? and evaluating a variety of text manipulation software, collaborative writing tools (wiki, twiki, orkut, knexus, drupal&#8230;), text visualization (text arc, txtkit, and poetry machine et al.), text to sound conversion, etc. (and then, there is metamix, or wi</p>
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		<title>By: Infosopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infosopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be interested in seeing research toward the development of humanities ontologies (or the development of a consortium to develop humanities ontologies) that could be used to house humanities information, and semantic relationships between humanities/historical concepts.  

This would allow consumers (readers and scholars) of humanities literature to navigate through distributed information sources via concepts that they are interested in, rather than the objects (information sources) in which they are contained.

In other words, a person interested in all of the ports of call--or captains of the ship Santa Maria, or those interested in the price of a commodity on a given day in the past, could drill down through abstract concepts (codified as an ontological construct) such as &quot;ships&quot;, or &quot;coffee&quot;,  and then into the time period that they are interested in, to find examples of the knowledge contained in the original texts (perhaps newspapers, or diaries, etc.).

In my mind, the &quot;New Reading&quot; is about the READER determining the knowledge that they consume--rather than consuming what is spoon-fed to them by an author.  

The Gene Ontology&#039;s (geneontology.org) annotation of genes for biological function provides a good example of the power of an ontology.  Once humanities artifacts and concepts are codified into ontologies, can they be annotated, and then searched, in simillar ways.

Matthew Lange (mclange@ucdavis.edu)
Chocolate History Project
UC Davis






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be interested in seeing research toward the development of humanities ontologies (or the development of a consortium to develop humanities ontologies) that could be used to house humanities information, and semantic relationships between humanities/historical concepts.</p>
<p>This would allow consumers (readers and scholars) of humanities literature to navigate through distributed information sources via concepts that they are interested in, rather than the objects (information sources) in which they are contained.</p>
<p>In other words, a person interested in all of the ports of call&#8212;or captains of the ship Santa Maria, or those interested in the price of a commodity on a given day in the past, could drill down through abstract concepts (codified as an ontological construct) such as &#8220;ships&#8221;, or &#8220;coffee&#8221;,  and then into the time period that they are interested in, to find examples of the knowledge contained in the original texts (perhaps newspapers, or diaries, etc.).</p>
<p>In my mind, the &#8220;New Reading&#8221; is about the <span class="caps">READER</span> determining the knowledge that they consume&#8212;rather than consuming what is spoon-fed to them by an author.</p>
<p>The Gene Ontology&#8217;s (geneontology.org) annotation of genes for biological function provides a good example of the power of an ontology.  Once humanities artifacts and concepts are codified into ontologies, can they be annotated, and then searched, in simillar ways.</p>
<p>Matthew Lange (mclange@ucdavis.edu)<br />
Chocolate History Project<br />
<span class="caps">UC </span>Davis</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Krapp</title>
		<link>http://transliteracies.english.ucsb.edu/post/conference-2005/seed-questions/transliteracies-project-planning-session-2005/comment-page-1#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Krapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2005 20:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some project programming ideas that come to mind: video conferencing and other ways to foster collaborations, but also the various potential uses of and extensions to the website &#8211; which could include, in a modest but pointed way, using, &#8220;curating,? and evaluating a variety of text manipulation software, collaborative writing tools (wiki, twiki, orkut, knexus, drupal&#8230;), text visualization (text arc, txtkit, and poetry machine et al.), text to sound conversion, etc. (and then, there is metamix, or wimp) &#8211; there are lots of different solutions on offer. one I am checking out these days is super collider, an object oriented programming environment for real-time audio and video processing&#8230; the learning curve is a bit steep, but it might appeal to some tech-savvy participants in various ways. [peter krapp]</p>
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		<title>By: bbimber</title>
		<link>http://transliteracies.english.ucsb.edu/post/conference-2005/seed-questions/transliteracies-project-planning-session-2005/comment-page-1#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>bbimber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2005 15:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Folks,

I&#039;ll join this thread sideways. As a social scientist I am some distance removed from the McGann-Noto concerns about process, shop-talk, and over-conferencing in the humanities.  I can not comment competently on that.  But this resonates with a common concern that I share regarding some of the social sciences, namely too great a focus on method. The problem is not that methodological sophistication is itself bad, but that the methods focus - here is the analogue of McGann&#039;s shop talk - often squeezes out the big substantive questions: what do we want to know? what are the unanswered questions? what problems are we trying to solve? what are the great debates? Our own conferences are susceptible methods entropy, in which contests about who has better data or a better equation deflate and diffuse the question of whether we have learned anything about the human condition. 

So I&#039;d add to McGann&#039;s endorsement of identifying two or three digital applications important to the humanities a call for keeping an eye on the most compelling substantive questions that these initiatives would serve.

Bruce Bimber

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Folks,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll join this thread sideways. As a social scientist I am some distance removed from the McGann-Noto concerns about process, shop-talk, and over-conferencing in the humanities.  I can not comment competently on that.  But this resonates with a common concern that I share regarding some of the social sciences, namely too great a focus on method. The problem is not that methodological sophistication is itself bad, but that the methods focus &#8211; here is the analogue of McGann&#8217;s shop talk &#8211; often squeezes out the big substantive questions: what do we want to know? what are the unanswered questions? what problems are we trying to solve? what are the great debates? Our own conferences are susceptible methods entropy, in which contests about who has better data or a better equation deflate and diffuse the question of whether we have learned anything about the human condition.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d add to McGann&#8217;s endorsement of identifying two or three digital applications important to the humanities a call for keeping an eye on the most compelling substantive questions that these initiatives would serve.</p>
<p>Bruce Bimber</p>
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		<title>By: jmcgann</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmcgann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2005 08:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear alan et al,

i write briefly from london to say that, had i been dante 
noto, i would have written in approximately the same way
about the funding application alan submitted.

and the issue reflects a disfeature of our current humanities 
disciplines at large, which labor in an excess of 
conferencing and shop talk.

to reframe shelley&#039;s practical argument a bit,  we need to 
imagine that which we know.

digital technology for the humanities is now quite well 
developed.  we know enough at this point to be able to 
develop -- to conceive and build -- useful online resources 
of many kinds.  better and more useful applications can&#039;t 
come until we actually start to build what we can now imagine, and
use the experience to go further.   as we know, interesting  
resources  are already being developed
in lots of places.  but there&#039;s little coordination (which 
doesn&#039;t need conferencing to be brought about) and little 
penetration to humanities educators at large (most still work 
almost entirely in bibliographical frameworks and traditions).

i think we&#039;d do a good and useful thing if everyone coming to 
this conference prepared a set of two or three digital 
applications or initiatives -- things actually in development 
at any stage -- that seem important and relevant to digital 
humanities.  and annotate each item on the list with a 
commentary on why you think its development is important as 
well as how you think development might be promoted and extended.

jerry mcgann
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear alan et al,</p>
<p>i write briefly from london to say that, had i been dante<br />
noto, i would have written in approximately the same way<br />
about the funding application alan submitted.</p>
<p>and the issue reflects a disfeature of our current humanities<br />
disciplines at large, which labor in an excess of<br />
conferencing and shop talk.</p>
<p>to reframe shelley&#8217;s practical argument a bit,  we need to<br />
imagine that which we know.</p>
<p>digital technology for the humanities is now quite well<br />
developed.  we know enough at this point to be able to<br />
develop&#8212;to conceive and build&#8212;useful online resources<br />
of many kinds.  better and more useful applications can&#8217;t<br />
come until we actually start to build what we can now imagine, and<br />
use the experience to go further.   as we know, interesting<br />
resources  are already being developed<br />
in lots of places.  but there&#8217;s little coordination (which<br />
doesn&#8217;t need conferencing to be brought about) and little<br />
penetration to humanities educators at large (most still work<br />
almost entirely in bibliographical frameworks and traditions).</p>
<p>i think we&#8217;d do a good and useful thing if everyone coming to<br />
this conference prepared a set of two or three digital<br />
applications or initiatives&#8212;things actually in development<br />
at any stage&#8212;that seem important and relevant to digital<br />
humanities.  and annotate each item on the list with a<br />
commentary on why you think its development is important as<br />
well as how you think development might be promoted and extended.</p>
<p>jerry mcgann</p>
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